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112 months ago by
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Only in 6DoF would this be a problem:

My key layout requires that if I want to trichord, I have to hold keys A+F+B at the same time. I invite any Windows XP users to try that right now--you'll probably get a loud "BEEP" from your speakers after about two seconds.

Not only that, but if you try to function with them in game, you can only use two. I can get the functions of A+F, F+B, or A+B just fine, but when I try to add the third in, it just won't go.

This is not the case with all trichording. I can do A+S+B just fine, and Q+E+F and such.

Help! Is this a Windows service? Is it the kernel? How can I get to proper trichording? (I refuse to change my keyboard layout!)

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112 months ago by
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Well Joker, your problem seems to be a unique phenomenon in Computer Science known as "Keyboard Ghosting". If you'd taken the time to Google a little bit harder, you'd find this helpful article:

http://www.microsoft.com/appliedsciences/AntiGhostingExplained.mspx

And at a quick look on NewEgg, you'd see that an anti-ghosting keyboard costs about $50.

#%$&!

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112 months ago by
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Keyboard "ghosting" actually *should* be referring to when you press a key, an additional key shows up that you weren't actually pressing. However, some large gaming companys have been misusing the term, since it sounds cooler. Microsoft recently jumped on board, so pretty soon it will be the "proper" definition.

Anyways the problem is that your keyboard probably has the standard matrix which allows anywhere from 2-6 keys to be pressed at the same time, depending on what keys they are. Unfortunately, until recently not many people seem to have noticed this, so many keyboards that cost over $100 like the logitech g19 still have this problem.

If you don't want to get into anything expensive like mechanical keyboards, this I-rocks is supposed to be an excellent rubber dome for the price, and offers up to 11 keypresses: http://www.directron.com/kr6820ebk.html?gsear=1.

Note that the USB driver will only allow 6 keys to be pressed at once, so with any USB keyboard if you need more then 6, you'll have to use a ps/2 adapter, assuming the board supports it.

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112 months ago by
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I can confirm a G15 on USB will support 6 inputs at one time. (Original G15)

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112 months ago by
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QUOTE: Help! Is this a Windows service? Is it the kernel? How can I get to proper trichording? (I refuse to change my keyboard layout!)

Well good going answering your own question.

But I suppose I can give you an oldschool technique that I suppose is done by keyboard players out of need to get around the ghosting effect when playing and to still be formidable. Whenever you hear a keyboard player they're sounding like they're typing 100 wpm constantly. Instead of holding down a coord they are tapping it, while they are chording in a smooth fashion with the aid of the ships momentum. They would be tapping which ever logical direction is needed at the time. And this helps with quick correction as well, as you can tap a sequence like: up up up up down up up down down up up up.... with subtle changes that may have a great effect on prediction. However to use it for trichording you would change the coords up, right, forward, up, right, forward. That is if you didn't want to change your control scheme. However there are many schemes that work without having to tap them, which is much easier on your fingers.

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QUOTE: I can confirm a G15 on USB will support 6 inputs at one time. (Original G15)

It supports UP TO 6 keys at a time. This is very very different from supporting 6 inputs at a time, as the g15 will lock up on some combos after pressing down just 2 or 3 keys.

Note modifiers like shift or control are usually separate. If you include those in your controls, it can help out a lot. Most gaming keyboards are also going to have the WASD cluster mapped to respond fully.

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